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Possible children of Joshua Hiscock & Philadelphia Freeland

Joshua Hiscock
Birth 1810: baptised 7th September 1810 at Battle(Source: provided by Marganon)
Death: not known; but presumably in infancy before next Joshua was born.
Edmund Hiscock
Baptism 9th September 1813 at Battle (Source: provided by Marganon)
Marriage to Mary Ann Hook at Westfield on 28th December 1834 (source provided by Marganon)
See below for their children.
See census returns for 1841 to 1861
Death: not known.
Maria Hiscock
Birth abt 1819 - baptism date: 07 Feb 1819 at Sedlescomb; father's name: Joshua Hiscock; mother's name: Philadelphia Hiscock (IGI batch number: I04472-0).
See below for further possible information about Maria.
Death: 1896 age 77 (Register: Sep 1896 Cranbrook 2a 443
Joshua Hiscock
Birth: probably the twin of Maria. baptised 7.2.1819 at Sedlescomb. (Source: provided by Marganon).
Marriage to Leonora Hailer (Register: Dec 1846 Battle 7 443)
Certificate: October 14th 1846, in the parish church of Sedlescomb.   Joshua Hiscock, of full age, bachelor, labourer, of Sedlescomb, son of Joshua Hiscock, labourer;
and Leonora Hailer, of full age, spinster, of Sedlescomb, daughter of Edward Hailer, labourer;
Witnesses: Maria Hiscock and Selina Hiscock.
See below for possible children of their marriage.
Death: not known.
Philadelphia Selina Hiscock
Baptised in Whatlington in 1822 (provided by Marganon)
See below for further notes on her probable children.
Death: not known.


Census data referring to Joshua and Philadelphia Hiscock

1841
Census transcription details for: Sedlescomb Street, Sedlescomb
RG number: HO107;   Piece: 1109;   Book/Folio: 12/23;   Page: 14
Reg. District: Battle;   Sub District: Ewhurst;   Parish: Sedlescomb
Hiscock Joshua, age 72, born in Sussex;   Hiscock Philadelphia, age 60, born in Sussex;
Hiscock Joshua, age 20, born in Sussex.



A possible sister to Joshua (Junior) above

1841
RG number: HO107;   Piece: 1107;   Book/Folio: 8/38;   Page: 20
Reg. District: Hastings;   Sub District: St Mary in the Castle, Hastings
Address: Wellington Square, St Mary In The Castle, Hastings, Sussex
Smith John, age 53;   Smith Ann, age 51;
Hiscock Selina, age 20, born in Sussex;
Creagle Andrew, age 60, born in Ireland;   Creagle Maria, age 40;   Vaughan Charlotte, age 25;   Fitzgerald Agnes, age 16.



Children of Edmund Hiscock (born abt 1816) and Mary (or Mary Ann) Hook

Charlotte Hiscock
Baptism 12 May 1839 at Sedlescomb, Sussex (Source: IGI (batch) number: I04472-0).
Death: 1839 (Registration: 1839 Sep Battle Sussex 7 155).
Selina Philadelphia Hiscock
Baptism 24 Jun 1842 at Sedlescomb, Sussex (Source: IGI batch number: I04472-0);
Register: Sep 1842 Battle 7 237; certificate: 15th June 1842 at Sedlecombe, Salena Philadephia Hiscock, daughter of Edmund Hiscock, labourer, and Mary Ann Hiscock formerly Hook.
(Her name is spelt in 3 different ways - Selina Philadelphia in IGI; Selena Philidelphia in Register; Salena Philadelphia on certificate)
Possible marriage: 1869 to Henry Allum/Allun (Register: Sep 1869 Croydon 2a 281)
However IGI shows presumably this marriage (22 Aug 1869 at Christ Church, Croydon - batch number:I02209-9) as having the bride's father's name as John Hiscock,and not Edmund.
Death: not known
Jane Elizabeth Hiscock
Birth 1848 (Register: 1848 December Battle 07 272:   Certificate - 25th September 1848 at Ewhurst, Jane Elizabeth, daughter of Edmund Hiscock, labourer, and Mary Ann Hiscock, (formerly Hook.)
Death: not known.   I cannot find her in any census entry; but there are no registered deaths for Jane in Sussex before the 1851 census, though two are registered in other counties.



Census data referring to the family of Edmund Hiscock (born abt 1816) and Mary (or Mary Ann) Hook

1841
RG number: HO107;   Piece: 1109;   Book/Folio: 12/8;   Page: 8
Reg. District: Battle;   Sub District: Ewhurst;   Parish: Sedlescomb
Address: Near Church, Sedlescomb, Sussex
Hiscock Edmund, age 25, born in Sussex;   Hiscock Mary, age 25, born in Sussex.

1851
RG number: HO107;   Piece: 1636;   Folio: 197;   Page: 22
Reg. District: Battle;   Sub District: Ewhurst;   Parish: Sedlescomb;   Enum. District: 1
Address: Mount Pleasant, Sedlescomb Street, Sedlescomb, Sussex
Hiscock Edmund, Head, married, age 38, Ag Lab, born in Battle, Sussex;   Hiscock Mary, wife, age 36, born in Westfield, Sussex;
Hiscock Selina, daughter, age 9,born in Sedlescombe;
Sellens Robert, Lodger, unmarried, age 65, Retired Farmer, born in Sedlescombe.

1861
RG number: RG09;   Piece: 563;   Folio: 99;   Page 9
Reg. District: Battle;   Sub District: 1, Bexhill;   Parish: Westfield
Ecclesiastical District: St John the Baptist, Westfield
Address: ...House, New England, Westfield, Sussex
Hiscock Edward (should plainly be Edmund) , Head, married, age 48, Farm Labourer, born in Battle, Sussex;   Hiscock Mary, wife, age 45, born in Brede, Sussex;
Hiscock Selina, daughter, unmarried, age 18, born in Sedlescombe, Sussex;   (Hard to read) Hiscock (probably Selone), niece, age 12, Scholar, born in Sedlescombe.

1871
RG number: RG10;   Piece: 1034;   Folio: 126;   Page: 6
Reg. District: Battle;   Sub District: Bexhill;   Parish: Westfield;   Enum. District: 12
Address: Whydown House, Westfield, Sussex
Hiscock Edmund, Head, age 58, born in Sussex;   Hiscock Mary A. wife, age 56, born in Sussex;
Hiscock Selina, (probably Selone), niece, age 23, born in Sussex

1881
RG number: RG11;   Piece: 1033;   Folio: 5;   Page: 4
Reg. District: Battle;   Sub District: Ewhurs;  t Parish: Sedlescombe
Address: Village, Sedlescombe, Sussex
Hiscock Edmond, Head, widower, age 68, Assistant Labourer, born in Battle, (Brecknockshire !) ;
Hiscock Selone, niece, single, age 33, House Keeper, born in Sedlescomb.



Possible children of Joshua Hiscock (born about 1821) and Leonora Hailes  
Because both children were infant deaths, I have not looked for confirmation from certificates.

Joshua Hiscock
Birth: 1849 (Register: Jun 1849 Battle 7 287).
Death: 1849 (Register: Dec 1849 Battle 7 211).
Louisa Elizabeth Hiscock
Birth: 1850 (Register: Sep 1850 Battle 7 285).
Death: 1851 (Register: Mar 1851 Battle 7 208).


Maria (born 1819)   Uncertainty over this entry.

There was a birth in 1852 of a Maria Lamb Hiscock to a mother Maria Hiscock (Register: Jun 1852 Battle 2b 34).
The certificate - 27th April 1852 Maria Lamb gives no Surname or Father`s Name; registered 1st June 1852 by Mother Maria Hiscock of Sedlescomb).
Maria Lamb Hiscock was christened on 10 Jul 1853 at Sedlescomb, Sussex, mother's name: Maria Hiscock (IGI batch number: I04472-0). The death in Jun 1856 (Hiscock Maria Battle 2b 25) probably refers to this child.
In 1841, at Oakhill, Beckley, Sussex, Maria Hiscock, age 25, born in Sussex had probably been employed as a servant by the Selmes family - Henry, Sarah his wife, and two daughters, along with 2 elderly Bishopp`s. There were 3 other residents aged 25 or younger, (possibly also servants ?) including a Mary Noakes with a family surname well connected over the years with the Hiscocks. (RG number: HO107;   Piece: 1106;   Book/Folio: 1/5;   Page: 4
Reg. District: Rye;   Sub District: Beckley.)
In 1851, Maria was a servant to the Dowager Lady Teynham at Oaklands, Westfield, Sussex. (RG number: HO107;   Piece: 1636;   Folio: 174;   Page: 4
Reg. District: Battle;   Sub District: Bexhill;   Parish: Westfield;   Enum. District: 5C)
There were 3 other servants to the Lady Teynham at the time; one widow of 60, a 30 year old Ann Griffith from Wales and an unmarried Charles Hillay of 26 from London. Charles Hillay appears in later censuses as Charles Hillary. In 1861 he is a Butler back in Acton. He is now married, though his wife is not shown at his place of employment. His marriage might have been in 1853 in London, or in 1859 in Hastings.
A Sarah Teynham died in 1854, so it is to be expected that Maria would have moved by 1861, whether or not Maria Lamb was her child.
In 1861, Maria is a housemaid to a tailor, Henry Lulham and his wife in Hastings. (RG number: RG09;   Piece: 561;   Folio: 26;   Page: 46;
Reg. District: Hastings;   Sub District: 3, St Mary in the Castle; Parish: St Mary Magdalen; Enum. District: 6
Address: 42 Eversfield Place, St Mary Magdalen, Hastings)
There was one other younger servant, Ellen Carden.
From 1871 onwards, Maria is servant to one family, George Neve, a Land Agent & Farmer (in 1881 holding 1190 acres, and employing 40 men, 10 boys and 4 women) at Sissinghurst Castle House, Cranbrook, in Kent. In 1871 there are George`s wife, a `pupil` of 18, and 3 nephews and nieces.   There are 2 other younger servants.
By 1881 (RG number: RG11;   Piece: 938;   Folio: 8;   Page: 8;   Reg. District: Cranbrook), the family has grown.   Son Thomas, age 27, a farmer of 340 acres, employing 7 men, 3 women and 1 boy; daughter Fanny, single, age 24; son Henry, age 21, a `Farm Pupil`; and a widowed sister-in-law, age 51 with her unmarried daughter of 25 constitute the family.
Maria, now age 62, is described as a housemaid; the cook and general servant, a widow, age 48; and there are also a parlour maid and a kitchen maid.
In 1891 the other 3 servants, (cook, housemaid and parlour maid) have all changed. The address has also had a slight addition.   The family has added a nephew, a curate.
The full transcription is shown below.


1891
RG number: RG12;   Piece: 694;   Folio: 82;   Page: 2
Reg. District: Cranbrook;   Enum. District: 8
Address: Castle House, Saw Lodge Park, Cranbrook, Sissinghurst Kent
Neve George, Head, married, age 6, Land Agent & Farmer, born in Benenden, Kent;   Neve Mary, wife, age 42 1849, born in Maidstone, Kent;
Neve Fanny Maria, daughter, single, age 34, born in Sissinghurst, Kent;   Neve Henry, son, single, age 31, Farmer, born in Sissinghurst, Kent;
Walter Martha, sister in law, widow, age 61, Living on her own means, born in Maidstone, Kent;   Walter Mary Raamond, niece, single, age 35, born in Bloomsbury, London;   Godden Frederic E., nephew, single, age 2, Curate, born in Paddington, London;
Hiscock Maria, servant, single, age 72, Housemaid, born in Mattington, Sussex;   Knock Charlotte, servant, single, age 37, Cook, born in Deal, Kent;   Austen Ann Eliz., servant, single, age 15, Housemaid, born in Cranbrook, Kent;   Morphett Clara E., servant, single, age 19, Parlour Maid, born in Sissinghurst, Kent.

Maria died five years later.



Probable children of Philadelphia Hiscock (Father unnamed)

Isabella Maria Hiscock
Birth: 1843, baptism date: 26 Mar 1843 at Sedlescomb, Sussex (IGI batch number: I04472-0; mother's name: Philadelphia Hiscock); probably the same as Register entry for Hiscock Maria Mar 1843 Battle 7 250, (certificate - 14th February 1843, Maria, No Surname or Father`s Name; Mother Philidelphia Hiscock of Sedlescomb, registered 9th March 1843 by Mother)
Death: not known..
Horatio Nelson Hiscock
Birth: 1845 (Register: Jun 1845 Battle 7 257)
Death: 1845 (Register: 1845 Jun Battle 7 181)
Selone Agusta Hiscock
Birth: 1847, baptism date: 30 Dec 1847 at Sedlescomb, Sussex (IGI batch number I04472-0; Seloan Hiscock; mother's name: Philadelphia Hiscock) (Register: Dec 1847 Hiscock Selone Agusta Battle 7 275: Certificate: 24th Sept 1847 at Sedlecombe, Selone Agusta, no father named; Mother Philadelphia Hiscock of Sedlecombe: subdistrict Ewhurst in Battle Union, Sussex.)
Death: not known.

I have not been able to link either Isabella or Selone with or without their mother in a census entry for 1851. Nor can I discover with any likelihood a census entry in 1861 or 1871 or a marriage entry between 1860 and 1870 for Isabella Maria.
The main connection to the rest of this family is through the census entries in the family of Edmund and Mary Ann;   the first, almost unreadable in 1861. The entry is transcribed by Findmypast as Johns - the same transcription as daughter Selina - the image is shown here.
The entry for 1871 is clearer, though probably not accurate, with only 1881 as reasonably certain.
Marganon has shown that the daughter of Joshua and Philadelphia born in 1822 in Whatlington was Philadelphia Selina. This has made it virtually certain that Philadelphia Selina was the mother of Isabella Maria and Selone Agusta.



Explanation of Removal Orders from Genuki (http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LIN/poorsettlement.html)

Beginning in 1665, the poor were allowed to enter any parish in search of work, so long as they had a Settlement Bond where they would agree to hold harmless a particular parish against any charges incurred by the person moving. These date from 1665 to 1697. Many people moved without bothering to obtain a Bond. Many considered it another form of government prying into their privacy.

After 1697, the poor were allowed to enter any parish in search of work, so long as they had a Settlement Certificate signed by the church wardens and overseers of their place of settlement and two magistrates guaranteeing to receive them back should they become chargeable. No one was allowed to move from town to town without the appropriate documentation. If a person entered a parish in which he or she did not have official settlement, and seemed likely to become chargeable to the new parish, then an examination would be made by the justices (or parish overseers). From this examination on oath, the justices would determine if that person had the means to sustain himself and, if not, which was that person's parish of settlement. The results of the examination were documented in an Examination Paper, but few of these have survived. As a result of the examination the intruder would then either be allowed to stay, or would be removed by means of what was known as a Removal Order.

Removal Orders would often take a person or a family back to a place of settlement miles across the country, sometimes to a parish they had only known briefly as a small child. It was not uncommon for a husband and wife to have their children taken from them, each being removed to separate scattered parishes. Children under seven were rarely removed to a different place from their natural parents as they would have had to gain a settlement of their own to be removed somewhere other than their father's place of settlement. Illegitimate babies and children could be removed away from their mothers in the 18th century if the child was not born in the mother's place of settlement (the settlement of illegitimate children was their place of birth) - but not always. Sometimes an agreement was made between the overseers of the child's place of settlement and the overseers of the parish where it was living so that it could be maintained by the former whilst living in the latter. Children whose mother had remarried a man with a different place of settlement from their father could be removed away from their mother as they would retain their father's settlement, but again agreements could be made between parishes as with illegitimate children above. In 1732/3 an Act prevented the removal of pregnant women and women within the first month of giving birth. After 1834, the Union Workhouse (covering a group of parishes) came into being, but removal to the "appropriate" Workhouse continued.